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Airwave Dijelis (Griots): Asante Sana, Bob Law #BobLaw #Nighttalk #NighttalkwithBobLaw

From my 2001 doctoral dissertation. The references have not been updated. Any mistakes–grammatical or ideological–are mine, not the University of Maryland’s.

“He stood at the mic like a lighthouse, unblinking in the storm. A voice for the people, a spine for the truth. Fearless in witness, relentless in love for his community. An icon — not because he sought it, but because he earned it.”
– New York City radio broadcaster Rennie Bishop, from an email upon hearing about Law’s transition into the Realm of the Ancestors

BOB LAW, TO MY surprise, was not born with a radio microphone in or near his mouth; once upon an early-’70s raised fist, he was a hell-raising New York City civil rights activist. In the previous decade, he had worked with the radical Brooklyn branch of the Congress for Racial Equality, a national civil rights organization. He also worked in the 1960s with the Northern Student Movement and as an East Coast organizer for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. He had learned graphic design and communications arts at Pratt Institute, a New York City arts college. Law said one of his greatest influences in the 1960s was Malcolm X, whom he called “…the great educator. The great teacher. He raised questions about what we were doing in the movement. He raised questions about street life. And he was a primary influence in the lives of a great many people, particularly the group of young people that I was a part of.”
Law led a group called IMPAC–the Independent Movement for Political Action. Law appeared on Bernie McCain’s WWRL-AM Sunday afternoon show “Tell It Like It Is” to talk about his organization’s campaign against the use of the drug Ritalin, a drug that counteracts hyperactivity, in New York City’s public schools. Law and other activists believed the drug was disproportionately being used on Black schoolchildren. Law said McCain was a pioneer of “activist radio,” where a host would actually campaign–and get his listeners organized–against an injustice. When McCain became program director at KDIA-AM in Oakland, California, Law became WWRL’s public affairs director and host of a show called “Black Dialogue”–an interesting, and typical for Black radio, version of, as the expression went at the time, from the streets to the suites.
In 1981, the same year WLIB, a rival AM Black-formatted station, began Black news-talk programming, “Night Talk with Bob Law” premiered on the National Black Network, originating on WWRL. (The station’s all-night slot had been held by Law’s friend Gary Byrd, who soon moved his “Gary Byrd Experience” show down the dial to WLIB; more on his story here.) “Night Talk” with Bob Law was the first national Black radio call-in talk show. It ran weeknights, from midnight to 5 a.m., Monday through Friday mornings. It was a national forum for Black issues in the news and Black politics. One scholar said it “quickly became the most popular Black talk radio show in the country.”
Law said the value of the national show was that Blacks struggling for social justice in one area “learn that their situation is not isolated. And [they] are even encouraged by [other] people who struggle against that oppression.” Using his ’60s swagger, he used the forum not just to inform, but also to prepare his listeners to spring into action. Early in its history, civil rights leader Jesse Jackson Sr. was Law’s “Night Talk” Tuesday co-host, using his visibility to prepare for his 1984 Presidential campaign. Law regularly invited activists and scholars, such as John Henrik Clarke and Dr. Yosef ben-Jochannan, to discuss their specialties.
The wee-hours host used his late-night pulpit to run many campaigns and crusades. When I began listening to the show in 1987, a major focus was fundraising for the New York chapter of the Black United Fund, a self-help philanthropy group. Named New York Coordinator for 1995’s Million Man March, “Night Talk” pushed hard for a large national turnout. In his book, Law lists some of “Night Talk'” s crusades, with special emphasis on one campaign in particular:
And there are many examples of NIGHTTALK’s influence on a national level: We helped raise $100,000 for a Kansas City teenager, we financed a summer softball league for children on behalf of [Law’s] Respect Yourself Youth Foundation, and we helped [in 1982] to save the Lorraine Motel, the site of Martin Luther King· s assassination [from an auction] …[Local businessmen] wanted to convert the hotel into a Martin Luther King museum, which I agreed would be much more fitting than the stone marker and plastic flowers that had been placed at the door of Dr. King’s room. The plan was to prevent the auction by paying off the debt owed by the motel. and then raise the money to build the Martin Luther King Museum.
I agreed to make the appeal and organize various fundraising events in local communities around the country, in conjunction with my on-air activity. I wanted the museum to make one adjustment [,] however. I wanted the museum to be dedicated to the entire Civil Rights Movement, with Dr. King as its centerpiece. The group agreed, and we launched a national radio campaign on NIGHTIALK… The NIGHTIALK audience also responded by calling the Judge who was to rule on the auction, to assure him that they were donating to the memorial fund and that the money was indeed on the way. On the strength of those phone calls and the renewed and expanded enthusiasm for the project, the Judge delayed the auction, giving the Memorial Foundation a few more days to receive contributions from its new supporters throughout the country.
We were successful! The Martin Luther King Memphis Memorial Foundation was able to buy the motel and the time they needed to raise the additional funds to build the excellent museum of the Civil Rights Movement that currently exists at the site of the old Lorraine Motel. Strangely enough. there is no mention of the NIGHTTALK campaign in any of the museum· s literature, nor was a promised plaque installed in the museum’s entrance to acknowledge the donations of African Americans around the country. These donations did in fact make the Civil Rights Museum possible.




IN 1989, LAW’s FRIEND and former WWRL co-worker, now calling himself Imhotep Gary Byrd, was on a roll so he decided to openly celebrate a role. His “GBE” was now renamed the “Global Black Experience.” On WLIB, the self-styled call-in radio magazine grew so popular that it began broadcasting live from the Apollo Theater. So he took full advantage of that, devoting a week to big-upping his Black-oriented media peers. From Monday through Thursday during a late-August week, the new, dashiked ”GBE” hosted a tribute to New York City’s “Pioneers in Broadcasting.” With a packed studio audience from the community, he honored the late Alma John, whose WWRL show was a ’60s Black radio staple and whose New York area community work was still remembered. Byrd also honored New York radio legend Hal Jackson, who was celebrating his 50th year in radio broadcasting. In addition, Byrd honored two of his peers: WABC-TV’s Gil Noble, producer and host of the award-winning Black public affairs television program “Like It Is,” and Law. (More on Noble and his show here.)
Onstage at the Apollo, which had basically become an African-centered Black community space during the hours of Byrd’s broadcast, Noble spoke with his friend about his career and professional philosophy (his professional journey began in the 1960s as a WLIB newscaster). Noble recalled how he learned from Pan-Africanist Queen Mother Moore that, as a displaced African in America, he didn’t even know his true [African] name. She “made me understand the severity of my condition … I didn’t even know my name.” That perspective, according to Noble, helped him to “ward off the intoxication” of becoming successful in a white-dominated industry. He said that he always remembers it was the Civil Rights Movement, particularly the 1967 Black insurrections in Newark and elsewhere, that got him his job at WABC-TV “..and that’s why I’ve spent my career trying to give back.” The program, he explained, was important for Blacks and whites because “white people need to learn the truth about themselves, too.” The predominantly Black audience laughed and applauded. Noble blamed America’s Eurocentric educational systems as the reason why Blacks who enter journalism all too often consider themselves journalists first and African-Americans second. He thanked Byrd for honoring him, noting that he was glad Byrd had such a public forum to be praised by callers and members of the studio audience, the latter of whom began moving to microphones near the Apollo stage to join the conversation. A Black woman, identifying herself as 83-year-old Beatrice Johnson from Queens, said she never missed “Like It Is” when it was broadcast on early Sunday afternoons. “I don’t miss it. That’s like church to me,” she said. One Black man asked Noble why he didn’t try to go after the lucrative and powerful WABC “Eyewitness News” weeknight anchor chair. “I am constantly reminded of the condition of our people,” responded Noble. “And that it is severe and grave. And that is my focus. And I don’t believe I can make a [similar] contribution anchoring the news as [I do with] ‘Like It Is,” since he said it was the only program on New York television controlled and conceptualized by people of African descent. “I think it is important for ‘Like It Is’ to stay alive because it allows people to see the world through the eyes of the majority of the people in the world instead of the minority.”
The next day on the “GBE,” Law was honored on the Apollo stage for his work on WWRL and on “Night Talk.” He talked to Byrd about his activist history in New York City prior to becoming a broadcaster–particularly the influence Malcolm had on him. He mentioned that Hal Jackson, whom Byrd had honored earlier that week, was the host of “Community Forum” on WLIB. where Law, as a young activist, would appear as a guest in the late 1960s. He said that the future of radio, especially AM radio, was talk and information, and that format was “…absolutely necessary in the African-American community,” since radio “is the only thing on in the Black community 24 hours a day.” A 65-year-old Black woman from the studio audience confirmed this. saying that she had gotten a thorough political and cultural education from her “daytime man” Byrd and her nighttime “husband” Law. The audience applauded and cheered, and both broadcasters quietly and humbly thanked her for her statement.

“LIKE IT IS,” WWRL-AM AND WLIB-AM are textbook examples of the multiple roles of Black media. The three forums have attempted to present an African-centered worldview using mass media. The hosts of these programs discussed here argue that their shows are antidotes to white mainstream media programming, which, due to its disproportionate control by whites, collectively present a white view of the world as mainstream. These forums allow African-Americans in the New York tri-state area and, in the case of WWRL’s “Night Talk” nationally, to see and hear themselves from the varied historical and cultural perspectives of Africans and African-Americans. They also allow a counter-narrative from the culturally white and politically right-wing views of white mainstream talk radio in New York City. Because the distinct roles they play are well within the concept of the Black media imperative. The mass communication products of Noble, Law and Byrd exemplify the Two-Pronged Black Critique of White Media Hegemony: l) the critique of white media supremacy and 2) the Black counter-narrative.
Noble, Law and Byrd share common professional and personal characteristics. All are tall, charismatic men who are more than 50 years old. The Civil Rights and Black Power movements forged all three ideologically, but as those movements developed in the North — specifically in New York City, the headquarters of the movements of Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X. They did not formally study journalism, although Law learned the basics of communications at Pratt. All started their careers in Black radio during turbulent years in American society. The three work as communicators who say they attempt to use their craft for the improvement of African-Americans. All three are artists: Noble, a piano player, led the Gil Noble Trio, a jazz band, in the 1950s; Byrd is a performance poet, songwriter and entertainer; Law is a graphics artist.
There are some slight differences. Law is the only one of the trio with a college degree. Noble was the only of the three not known to have been an athlete as a youth, unlike Byrd (football) and Law (baseball). Noble is the only one of the three working in white mainstream media. Law is the only one with a background in community organizing.
All three broadcasting forums are strongly focused from a Black worldview. For more than 15 years, the “Like It Is” title sequence has started with drums and a visual collage of the African-American experience, ranging from drawings of Africans being enslaved through pictures of the abolitionist period and the Civil Rights Movement to “Like It Is” interview clips from the 1970s to, finally, a still picture of a baby being born. After the collage, a red, black and green flag–the universally accepted symbol of Black Nationalism–is created onscreen, with the title of the show appearing in front of the flag shortly afterward. Law’s radio show started with an announcer saying “Night Talk” was “for people who live in the Black community and whose actions affect the Black community.” That description could easily apply to all three programs.
Not surprisingly, the shows sound different. Noble’s on-air demeanor, if not his line of questioning, is very calm and “objective;” he does not blatantly express his opinion on the air. Law and Byrd, on the other hand, have been open advocates on-air whose opinions on most topics are clearly known. Unlike Law and Byrd. Noble does not use music during the show; the show’s transitions to commercials and closing credits are done in silence. Noble is “Like It Is”s’ only interviewer, while Law and Byrd took calls from their audiences. Noble’s show is a weekly hour; the others had at least 16 hours of radio time to fill every week.
All three seem to be addressing the same audience–one seeking the Black media imperative as preferred programming. In my view, the audience Law, Byrd and Noble seem to target is composed of serious-minded African-American adults who want to l) learn about African-American politics, history and culture and 2) do something to improve the condition of African-Americans from a left-of-center, Nationalist-oriented point of view. The hosts seek to increase understanding of the African-American experience by creating programs that inspire African-Americans to become race-conscious citizens. By doing this, from my perspective, they serve the movements that created them and push a new generation to be exposed and, hopefully, become actively involved in social justice struggles.
The fact that Law, Byrd and Noble are part of a generation of Blacks influenced by the Civil Rights and Black Power movements does not make them at all unusual; millions of African-Americans were also shaped by “the Sixties,” the period between 1960 and 1979. What makes the story of these three men and their forums worthy of scholarly study is how, as media professionals, they consciously chose to make the mass media their own instead of being made by the mass media. As Black men who see their history, politics and culture as central to their identity as American citizens and human beings, they decided to make media from that experience during virtually the same time period–the late 1960s; they chose to make media that matched their beliefs, thoughts and opinions. They chose to use the media to present and discuss the African and African-American experiences from the often-controversial perspectives of their activist peers, not from the “objective” perspective taught in journalism school to Black and white journalists alike. In so doing, they became both proponents of the Black media imperative–”living mediums” standing on electronic stepladders–and ideological heirs of the movements they have championed.
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bob+law+night+talk

Asante Sana, Bill McCreary….

….for so many things: “The McCreary Report,” “Black News” and your being in charge of WLIB-AM news in the early 1960s. That was when you hired some guy named Gil Noble.
An Origin Story of Gary Byrd, From “Disc Journalist” to “World African Griot”
Gary Byrd turns 70 tomorrow. I thought this was as good an excuse as any to pull this out of my 2001 doctoral dissertation–an attempt to define Black (American) media ideology–to say an early “Happy Birthday.” Any mistakes are mine, and I welcome corrections from Byrd and all others. Happy Birthday, Brother Byrd!
A Byrd Flies In Buffalo
A major portion of the story of Black media can be told through the life and career of Gary Byrd. The radio veteran, who in the year 2000 was in his early 50s, is considered one of the links between the pioneer Black broadcasters and the current generation. Byrd’s 30-year career in broadcasting in New York City and Buffalo displays all facets of how Black media function.
Byrd began his radio career as a teenager in Buffalo, N.Y. Hearing Byrd’s powerful, charismatic speaking voice in a 1965 high school play, a part-time disk jockey for WUFO asked the fifteen-year-old if he had thought about a radio career. Byrd joined WUFO and, by the time he was 17, set his sights on WWRL. He was initially offered a job, but his grandmother made him turn it down until he finished high school. After a brief period at WYSL, located in upstate New York, Byrd joined WWRL in 1969 at the age of 19. His tenure there gave him the freedom to experiment that would allow the young disk jockey and poet to grow spiritually, intellectually and journalistically on the air.
“The Gary Byrd Experience”
In 1970, Byrd was given WWRL’s all-night spot. “It was late at night at the station … [the management said,] ‘Do what you can to keep the people up.’ They left me alone.” Being left alone to test ideas on the air during a time of experimentation in FM radio, the Black Power Movement and the Black Arts Movement, Byrd developed “The Gary Byrd Experience,” a blended and layered mix of music, interviews, radio news footage and his own Gil Scott-Heron-like poetry. (This format was similar to the one Del Shields used on his “Total Black Experience in Sound” show on WLIB-FM–a station that would, in 1972, be renamed WBLS-FM–but Byrd identifies his influences then as social comedian Dick Gregory and message-oriented soul music of the late 1960s. The program’s name is Byrd’s take on rock legend Jimi Hendrix’s band, “The Jimi Hendrix Experience.”) One of the poems Byrd created that he used on the air in the early 1970s was “Every Brother Ain’t a Brother,” his 1969 commentary on the social forces surrounding the Black Power movement. He said he wrote the poem because “at that time there were some interesting contradictions in the Black community.”
It‘s time for us to face the truth and level with each other
It‘s time for us to face the fact that every brother ain‘t a brother.
There are some who‘ll say to the world at large
I’m no color. I’m just a man.”
And some say to the folks uptown that Black Power is not their plan.
But through it all we fool ourselves and fool one another
By failing to face the simple fact that every brother ain’t a brother.
Now there is a kind of brother who shoots a brother and thinks that makes him bad
There‘s a kind of brother who says he’s Black because now it’s just a fad
We‘re at the point in the world today for self-evaluation
Just to find out where we really are in this racially tom-up nation
And one of the first things we must do is stop kidding one another
And get on the case of realism that every brother ain‘t a brother.
Now I said that every brother ain’t a brother
And I know you know that’s true.
But look in the mirror carefully
‘Cause that brother might be you.
Byrd began to redefine the role of disc jockey, calling himself a “disc journalist.”
His use of issues and music brought him attention from a fan of his radio show, musician Stevie Wonder, who invited him to write the lyrics to two songs, “Village Ghetto Land” and “Black Man” on Wonder’s double-album classic “Songs In The Key of Life.” In addition, Byrd recorded his own albums of poetry. With Bob Law, who became WWRL’s program director in the 1970s, Byrd attempted to bring the concept of predominately white “progressive FM” format to AM radio, but in a way tailored specifically to the needs of New York’s Black community. In 1984, Byrd would make a career move that would expand his reach and influence, and ultimately find a sphere of thought that he could claim as his own and share with his audience.
A Byrd Takes Flight As A New Experience Begins
By 1984, three years after Law’s “Night Talk,” a nationally syndicated Black talk radio program, debuted on WWRL, new talkers were on the WLIB airwaves. Mark Riley became WLIB’s mid-morning host, after the morning newscast. Gary Byrd became the early-to-late afternoon host on the daytime AM radio station. “The Gary Byrd Experience” had evolved from Black music to Black talk, and Byrd began to mix music to set the mood for his interviews and discussions. WLIB had a broadcaster in Byrd who attempted to meld the spiritual (music) with the social-political (talk) aspects of the African-American experience.
‘The Gary Byrd Experience” on WLIB, in Byrd’s mind a radio magazine, established Black rituals of sound. Each of the opening segments had its own particular sound, blending jazz with gospel, with Byrd’s voice opening and closing the show over the music. Unlike Riley’s show, which was call-in talk interrupted by music cues, Byrd, with music, rhyme, and tone, tried to create a cultural atmosphere with his predominantly Black audience. His “question of the day” for the audience, the focus of the leading segment of his program, was a more philosophical one than the one posed on the more news-oriented Riley’s show. When I began listening to him in 1987, Byrd referred to himself a “New Age Griot,” the latter French term referring to a name given to male West African praise singers who sing the history of a particular person, family or community.
A New Name, A New “GBE,” A New Site
While living and working in New York City in the 1970s and early 1980s, Byrd, who read on his own about Africa, began to be exposed to African-centered scholars such as John Henrik Clarke and Dr. Yosef ben-Jochannan (known as “Dr. Ben”), who often delivered public lectures to cultural Nationalist groups and others. Jochannan, an Egyptologist, taught that the ancient Egyptians who shaped human civilization were Black-skinned Africans. Byrd told Gil Noble during a 1999 WABC-TV “Like It Is” interview that he was prepared “to sit at Dr. Ben’s feet” when he heard a tape of a speech of Dr. Ben’s. In the mid-l980s, Byrd went to Egypt, where he was told by a priest to go to a certain place along the Nile River and perform a ritual to gain a spiritual experience. That ritual, he recalls, gave him the inspiration to give himself a name that “would give me something to aspire to every day of my life, a new place to step to.” He adopted the name Imhotep, the legendary Egyptian first multi-genius.
Byrd began using his new name publicly around 1990. It was shortly after he did a special week of programming from the Apollo Theatre honoring African-centered scholars such as Clarke and ben-Jochannan. As a result of the success of those broadcasts, Byrd was given the mid-morning slot, live from the Apollo. With this move in place, Byrd subsequently announced that his name was now Imhotep Gary Byrd and that he was re-christening his show the “Global Black Experience.” The broadcaster, dropping the “New Age” from his self-description, had now decided to become the African-American broadcast equivalent of an African griot–a living medium for African-Americans, with the mission to “make African people feel good about themselves, and to make the world feel good about African people.”
The “New GBE: Africentricity,” as he called it, was done on the Apollo stage, a center of Black American culture. Still essentially call-in talk radio, it was done with a live studio audience, who came in from the street to see the show. Guests were onstage talking with Byrd–wearing dreadlocks and dressed in flowing African robes–while the members of the studio audience lined up to ask questions or to win prizes in a Black history quiz question Byrd would ask on-air.
The show became politically and culturally stronger in tone-as strong to the Black Cultural Nationalist left as white mainstream talk show radio hosts Bob Grant and Rush Limbaugh of WABC-AM were to the white right in the 1980s and 1990s. The new “rituals of sound” were more African and less African-American. The “new” GBE began with a recorded call to “Speak, Drums! Tell the real story.” After the theme, Byrd would read aloud the Nguzo Saba–the seven principles of Kawaida theory developed by Black Cultural Nationalist Maulana Karenga and popularized by the Karenga-inspired African-American holiday, Kwanzaa–at the start of every show. These principles include calls to African unity, self-determination and purpose. Then Byrd would read the headlines from The Daily Challenge, the city’s only Black daily newspaper. On “Black Press Thursday,” the day most of the city’s weekly Black newspapers would be on the newsstands. He read headlines from all of the city’s Black press. Byrd took advantage of the use of a well-known stage and culturally-eager studio audience to honor people who had made significant contributions to African and African-American life.
The significance of the “New GBE,” from a cultural standpoint, cannot be overemphasized. Byrd, by 1990 a cultural hero of sorts and opinion leader in New York’s cultural Nationalist and activist communities, was now broadcasting an African-centered show from the Apollo Theatre, a legendary Harlem landmark on 125th Street–the same street used by many of the streetcorner orators, including Malcolm X. These ancestors now had descendants with new, more sophisticated stepladders and megaphones. The unedited voices of these “children” could now be heard around the nation’s No. 1 local media market–the New York tri-state area–in cars, homes, or on Walkmans while jogging. Black senior citizens and others who learned about Black history and culture from Byrd and his guests could now drop by to see them in person and ask questions. Teachers set up class field trips, as I helped to do in 1992 for journalism and broadcasting high school students attending the Seton Hall University Upward Bound program. “The New Negro Movement” of the 1930s had become a 1990s African-centered renaissance, live, on-air. The “New GBE” allowed Blacks to participate in a collective African-centered media experience, using the most powerful medium in Black communities, the radio.
The New, New Black Public Intellectuals (Or, The Digger-ati ;))
Leave it to Michael Eric Dyson to write this. (I remember he did something similar almost 20 years ago in his book “Race Rules.” )
It’s an interesting list. It would be a bit more interesting if it included people I met over the years, like Jared Ball and Rosa Clemente. They are no strangers to public intellectual work, but, alas, they don’t color within the lines.
But then again, looking at the older generation:
I just remember that Manning Marable and Earl Ofari Hutchinson were among those who started this “post-Civil Rights Movement Black public intellectual” thing 40 years ago on the Op-Ed pages of Black newspapers that only a few give a crap about now. Time is not the only thing that keeps on slipping into the future.

