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Is Tavis getting to be a better, more skeptical interviewer (I guess he should be, after seven years 😉 ), or is he just hatin’ here because of the subject? Either way, good interview.

(And it’s interesting to me that a well-known retired Black journalist who has always believed in being critical of Black leadership is smacking Tavis because he gave a tough interview about a president who has gone out of his way to not serve Black people. Who is the hater, really? :))